This house believes Quebec should secede from Canada

This house believes Quebec should secede from Canada

In 2010, the leader of Canada’s Bloc Québécois party, Gilles Duceppe, explained to a US audience that Quebec sovereignty is not yet a settled issue and that it would be a win-win for all of North America, especially those who still believe in the “Canadian Dream.”[1] The leader wants a third referendum on Quebecois secession from the Canadian Federation[2], believing that it will deliver a resounding “yes” to independence. However, in a recent poll 58% of Quebecers feel that the question of sovereignty is entirely outmoded[3], with only 26% feeling that it is “more relevant than ever.”[4] This same poll showed that less than 14% of Quebecers believe that, regardless of merit, an independent Quebec will exist in the next 30 years[5].

Quebec independence is an issue that traces back to conflict between the French and English over the colonization of Canada in the 1600s[6]. The fight for independence has taken on many different forms, including the creation of a terrorist organization called the Front de Libération du Québec (FLQ) in the 1960s, who were responsible for over 200 bombings between 1963 and 1970[7]. The FLQ famously kidnapped a Canadian Minister, Pierre Laporte and British Trade Commissioner, James Cross in the fall of 1970[8]. This situation culminated in the murder of Pierre Laporte and Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau enacting the War Measures Act[9].

Beyond the violent past that tarnishes the name of the movement, the struggle for independence in felt by French Canadians who struggle to retain their own language and culture in an overwhelmingly Anglophone Canada[10]. This debate is about the rights of French Canadians to their own self-determination and how they can best protect their unique culture and language.

 

[1] LeBlanc, Daniel. "Quebec Independence 'by no means settled,' Duceppe tells Americans." Globe and Mail 15 Oct 2010, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/quebec-independence-by-no-means-settled-duceppe-tells-americans/article1758500/>.

[2] LeBlanc, Daniel. "Quebec Independence 'by no means settled,' Duceppe tells Americans." Globe and Mail 15 Oct 2010, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/quebec-independence-by-no-means-settled-duceppe-tells-americans/article1758500/>.

[3] Chung, Andrew. "Sovereignty "outmoded," Quebec poll indicates." Star 19 May 2010, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.thestar.com/news/quebec/article/811132--sovereignty-outmoded-quebec-poll-indicates>.

[4] Chung, Andrew. "Sovereignty "outmoded," Quebec poll indicates." Star 19 May 2010, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.thestar.com/news/quebec/article/811132--sovereignty-outmoded-quebec-poll-indicates>.

[5] Chung, Andrew. "Sovereignty "outmoded," Quebec poll indicates." Star 19 May 2010, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.thestar.com/news/quebec/article/811132--sovereignty-outmoded-quebec-poll-indicates>.

[6] "A Short History of Secession in Quebec." Hub Pages. N.p., 23 Aug 2011. Web. 30 Nov. 2011. <http://jdmurrah.hubpages.com/hub/A-Short-History-of-Secession-in-Quebec>.

[7] "A Short History of Secession in Quebec." Hub Pages. N.p., 23 Aug 2011. Web. 30 Nov. 2011. <http://jdmurrah.hubpages.com/hub/A-Short-History-of-Secession-in-Quebec>.

[8] "Front de liberation du Quebec." The Canadian Encyclopedia. Web. 1 Dec 2011. <http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0003082>.

[9] "Front de liberation du Quebec." The Canadian Encyclopedia. Web. 1 Dec 2011. <http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0003082>.

[10]  "A Short History of Secession in Quebec." Hub Pages. N.p., 23 Aug 2011. Web. 30 Nov. 2011. <http://jdmurrah.hubpages.com/hub/A-Short-History-of-Secession-in-Quebec>.

 

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POINT

The only way to ensure that Quebecers get to retain their distinct culture is to gain independence as a country and remove themselves from the Canadian federation.

A very big issue for certain Quebecers is the threat that an overwhelmingly English-speaking country has on their pocket of distinct French-Quebecois culture[1]. The unrestricted immigration of English-speaking Canadians to Quebec has diluted the culture of the Quebecois and has set off the process of cultural-loss and the highly feared loss of their language[2]. Moreover, whenever Quebec has tried to put in place provisions to protect their culture and language, such as with Bill 101[3], Quebec is called racist and Canadian Federal Courts try to strike down their laws to stop their “discrimination” against English-speaking Canadians in their province[4].

The only way that Quebec can protect its language and culture is to be able to stop the unrestricted flow of English-speaking immigration into its territory and gain complete control over its own law and cultural policy. The only way to do this is to gain independence from Canada.

[1] "Only Quebec independence can protect French language: PQ strategist." CBS News Canada 26 Nov 2007, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2007/11/26/accommodation-hearing.html>.

[2] "Only Quebec independence can protect French language: PQ strategist." CBS News Canada 26 Nov 2007, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2007/11/26/accommodation-hearing.html>.

[3] "Bill 101." The Canadian Encyclopedia. Web. 1 Dec 2011. <http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0000744>.

[4] "Bill 101." The Canadian Encyclopedia. Web. 1 Dec 2011. <http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0000744>.

COUNTERPOINT

Although it may be true that traditional Quebecois culture is under threat, this is not necessarily a bad thing. Cultures change and evolve to reflect the rich history of a territory and its peoples and the interaction with Anglophonic Canadians is a very important part of that history that should be reflected in Quebecois culture.

Moreover, Quebec is more than able to institute language laws and cultural policy, as they were able to continue the vast majority of the provisions in Bill 101[1] after it was struck down once they stripped out the parts that explicitly discriminated against English-speaking Canadians and once they enacted the Constitutional not-withstanding clause that the Canadian constitution has in place to help accommodate Provincial diversity such as this. Further to this, Canada is officially a bilingual country, and thus the linguistic and cultural rights of the French are constitutionally protected by the Federal government not only within Quebec but in wider Canadian society. It is simply fallacious to claim that the Canadian government does not recognize or protect the distinct culture and language of French Canadians.

[1] "Bill 101." The Canadian Encyclopedia. Web. 1 Dec 2011. <http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0000744>.

POINT

All people have the right to determine their own form of government and representation and Quebec has been systematically denied this right.

Quebec has historically been denied the right to determine its own form of governance systematically and therefore the Canadian government has no right to claim legitimacy over Quebec and cannot stop it from leaving the federation.

The Canadian Constitution was patriated in 1982 in a backroom deal known as the Meech Lake Accord[1] where Quebec was explicitly excluded from the negotiations and their issues were ignored. Specifically, Quebec was attempting to entrench recognition of their special status and needs as a distant society within Canada[2] and this was denied. To this day, Quebec has refused to sign the Canadian constitution as it feels it doesn’t adequately represent its interests and needs[3].

Therefore, Quebec has the right to independence as its sovereignty was illegitimately taken from it and it is systematically denied adequate representation in Canadian politics.

[1] "The Meech Lake Accord." Peace and Conflict. Historica, n. d. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.histori.ca/peace/page.do?pageID=260>.

[2] "The Meech Lake Accord." Peace and Conflict. Historica, n. d. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.histori.ca/peace/page.do?pageID=260>.

[3] "The Meech Lake Accord." Peace and Conflict. Historica, n. d. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.histori.ca/peace/page.do?pageID=260>.

COUNTERPOINT

Although there have been flaws in the way that Canada has dealt with Quebec in the past, it simply isn’t true that it is currently denied its right to self-determination. First of all, it is not the will of the people to become an independent nation, shown by the results of the most recent referendum on the issue and recent polling figures[1]. Therefore, it is the will of the Quebecers to be governed as part of Canada and becoming independent would in fact violate this right to self-determination. Second, there have been large steps taken to rectify these past issues of exclusion of the Quebec voice such as in 2006 where Prime Minister Harper’s recognition of Quebec as a distinct nation within Canada[2].

[1] Chung, Andrew. "Sovereignty "outmoded," Quebec poll indicates." Star 19 May 2010, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.thestar.com/news/quebec/article/811132--sovereignty-outmoded-quebec-poll-indicates>.

[2] "Harper: Quebec a nation... within Canada." Canada.com 22 Nov 2006, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.canada.com/globaltv/national/story.html?id=75d27ce4-94d9-495e-9235-0a58fcdc7cbd>.

POINT

International law recognizes Quebec’s right to self-determination and denying them self-determination is therefore a violation of international law.

International law recognizes the right of all peoples to self-determination. The international community has decided that it is oppressive to individuals to live under a government that is systematically incapable or unwilling to protect them and their interests.[1]

The Quebecois have been systematically denied adequate representation in the federal government of Canada. Quebecois legislation protection their basic rights to retain their language and culture have been met with contempt[2] and legal action by the federal Canadian government and courts.[3] This is but one example of the very clear denial of basic representation and self-governance that afflicts the Quebecois in Canada.

Therefore, Quebec has the legal right to self-determination and independence in international law.

[1] „Reference re Secession of Quebec“, Supreme Court of Canada, 1998, 2 S.C.R. 217, <http://scc.lexum.org/en/1998/1998scr2-217/1998scr2-217.html>

[2] “Maxime Bernier on Quebec law: ‘We don’t need Bill 101’”, The Canadian Press, 4 February 2011, <http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20110204/bernier-law-110204/>

[3] Hudon, R., „Bill 101“, The Canadian Encyclopedia, <http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0000744>

COUNTERPOINT

The right to self-determination does not necessitate independence, but rather determination of their own governance. This principle is widely seen as not being about sovereignty, but rather the right to control local governance for their peoples, a right already extended to the Quebecois. The International Court of Justice, the most important court of international law, has recognized the right of self-determination as being adequately fulfilled by devolved governance.[1]

Moreover, as explained in counterargument one, there is no basis for the Quebecois to claim that they are systematically denied adequate representation, making the international legal precedent on self-determination irrelevant.

[1] Van der Vyver, Johan D., „Self-Determination of the Peoples of Quebec under International law“, Journal of Transnational Law and Policy, Vol. 10, No. 1, <http://law.fsu.edu/journals/transnational/vol101/vyver.pdf>, p.11

Points-against

Points Against

POINT

The only way to ensure that Quebecers get to retain their distinct culture is to gain independence as a country and remove themselves from the Canadian federation.

A very big issue for certain Quebecers is the threat that an overwhelmingly English-speaking country has on their pocket of distinct French-Quebecois culture[1]. The unrestricted immigration of English-speaking Canadians to Quebec has diluted the culture of the Quebecois and has set off the process of cultural-loss and the highly feared loss of their language[2]. Moreover, whenever Quebec has tried to put in place provisions to protect their culture and language, such as with Bill 101[3], Quebec is called racist and Canadian Federal Courts try to strike down their laws to stop their “discrimination” against English-speaking Canadians in their province[4].

The only way that Quebec can protect its language and culture is to be able to stop the unrestricted flow of English-speaking immigration into its territory and gain complete control over its own law and cultural policy. The only way to do this is to gain independence from Canada.

[1] "Only Quebec independence can protect French language: PQ strategist." CBS News Canada 26 Nov 2007, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2007/11/26/accommodation-hearing.html>.

[2] "Only Quebec independence can protect French language: PQ strategist." CBS News Canada 26 Nov 2007, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2007/11/26/accommodation-hearing.html>.

[3] "Bill 101." The Canadian Encyclopedia. Web. 1 Dec 2011. <http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0000744>.

[4] "Bill 101." The Canadian Encyclopedia. Web. 1 Dec 2011. <http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0000744>.

COUNTERPOINT

Although it may be true that traditional Quebecois culture is under threat, this is not necessarily a bad thing. Cultures change and evolve to reflect the rich history of a territory and its peoples and the interaction with Anglophonic Canadians is a very important part of that history that should be reflected in Quebecois culture.

Moreover, Quebec is more than able to institute language laws and cultural policy, as they were able to continue the vast majority of the provisions in Bill 101[1] after it was struck down once they stripped out the parts that explicitly discriminated against English-speaking Canadians and once they enacted the Constitutional not-withstanding clause that the Canadian constitution has in place to help accommodate Provincial diversity such as this. Further to this, Canada is officially a bilingual country, and thus the linguistic and cultural rights of the French are constitutionally protected by the Federal government not only within Quebec but in wider Canadian society. It is simply fallacious to claim that the Canadian government does not recognize or protect the distinct culture and language of French Canadians.

[1] "Bill 101." The Canadian Encyclopedia. Web. 1 Dec 2011. <http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0000744>.

POINT

All people have the right to determine their own form of government and representation and Quebec has been systematically denied this right.

Quebec has historically been denied the right to determine its own form of governance systematically and therefore the Canadian government has no right to claim legitimacy over Quebec and cannot stop it from leaving the federation.

The Canadian Constitution was patriated in 1982 in a backroom deal known as the Meech Lake Accord[1] where Quebec was explicitly excluded from the negotiations and their issues were ignored. Specifically, Quebec was attempting to entrench recognition of their special status and needs as a distant society within Canada[2] and this was denied. To this day, Quebec has refused to sign the Canadian constitution as it feels it doesn’t adequately represent its interests and needs[3].

Therefore, Quebec has the right to independence as its sovereignty was illegitimately taken from it and it is systematically denied adequate representation in Canadian politics.

[1] "The Meech Lake Accord." Peace and Conflict. Historica, n. d. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.histori.ca/peace/page.do?pageID=260>.

[2] "The Meech Lake Accord." Peace and Conflict. Historica, n. d. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.histori.ca/peace/page.do?pageID=260>.

[3] "The Meech Lake Accord." Peace and Conflict. Historica, n. d. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.histori.ca/peace/page.do?pageID=260>.

COUNTERPOINT

Although there have been flaws in the way that Canada has dealt with Quebec in the past, it simply isn’t true that it is currently denied its right to self-determination. First of all, it is not the will of the people to become an independent nation, shown by the results of the most recent referendum on the issue and recent polling figures[1]. Therefore, it is the will of the Quebecers to be governed as part of Canada and becoming independent would in fact violate this right to self-determination. Second, there have been large steps taken to rectify these past issues of exclusion of the Quebec voice such as in 2006 where Prime Minister Harper’s recognition of Quebec as a distinct nation within Canada[2].

[1] Chung, Andrew. "Sovereignty "outmoded," Quebec poll indicates." Star 19 May 2010, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.thestar.com/news/quebec/article/811132--sovereignty-outmoded-quebec-poll-indicates>.

[2] "Harper: Quebec a nation... within Canada." Canada.com 22 Nov 2006, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.canada.com/globaltv/national/story.html?id=75d27ce4-94d9-495e-9235-0a58fcdc7cbd>.

POINT

International law recognizes Quebec’s right to self-determination and denying them self-determination is therefore a violation of international law.

International law recognizes the right of all peoples to self-determination. The international community has decided that it is oppressive to individuals to live under a government that is systematically incapable or unwilling to protect them and their interests.[1]

The Quebecois have been systematically denied adequate representation in the federal government of Canada. Quebecois legislation protection their basic rights to retain their language and culture have been met with contempt[2] and legal action by the federal Canadian government and courts.[3] This is but one example of the very clear denial of basic representation and self-governance that afflicts the Quebecois in Canada.

Therefore, Quebec has the legal right to self-determination and independence in international law.

[1] „Reference re Secession of Quebec“, Supreme Court of Canada, 1998, 2 S.C.R. 217, <http://scc.lexum.org/en/1998/1998scr2-217/1998scr2-217.html>

[2] “Maxime Bernier on Quebec law: ‘We don’t need Bill 101’”, The Canadian Press, 4 February 2011, <http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20110204/bernier-law-110204/>

[3] Hudon, R., „Bill 101“, The Canadian Encyclopedia, <http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0000744>

COUNTERPOINT

The right to self-determination does not necessitate independence, but rather determination of their own governance. This principle is widely seen as not being about sovereignty, but rather the right to control local governance for their peoples, a right already extended to the Quebecois. The International Court of Justice, the most important court of international law, has recognized the right of self-determination as being adequately fulfilled by devolved governance.[1]

Moreover, as explained in counterargument one, there is no basis for the Quebecois to claim that they are systematically denied adequate representation, making the international legal precedent on self-determination irrelevant.

[1] Van der Vyver, Johan D., „Self-Determination of the Peoples of Quebec under International law“, Journal of Transnational Law and Policy, Vol. 10, No. 1, <http://law.fsu.edu/journals/transnational/vol101/vyver.pdf>, p.11

POINT

Quebec independence simply will not work because Quebec would not be financially viable as an independent economy.

Quebec has been financially dependent on the rest of Canada for years[1] specifically being dependent on “have” provinces such as Alberta to prop-up its economy as a “have-not” provinces through equalization payments[2]. Moreover, all financial indicators point to the situation staying as it is or worsening, with no signs of improvement in the economy visible[3].

If Quebec were to gain independence, it simply would not be able to sustain itself as an independent country. Quality of life would necessarily have to drop for all those living in Quebec and the economy would only crash further as confidence in it would dwindle once you remove the credibility the support of the Canadian government and economy that currently gives it.

Therefore, Quebec should not secede from Canada as it would only serve to harm their economy and the livelihoods of the people they supposedly are there to protect.

[1] Van Praet, Nicolas. "No progress in Quebec prosperity: report." Financial Post 30 Aug 2011, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://business.financialpost.com/2011/08/30/no-progress-in-quebec-prosperity-report/>.

[2] Van Praet, Nicolas. "No progress in Quebec prosperity: report." Financial Post 30 Aug 2011, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://business.financialpost.com/2011/08/30/no-progress-in-quebec-prosperity-report/>.

[3] Van Praet, Nicolas. "No progress in Quebec prosperity: report." Financial Post 30 Aug 2011, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://business.financialpost.com/2011/08/30/no-progress-in-quebec-prosperity-report/>.

COUNTERPOINT

Many countries in the world have bad economies; this is not a reason to not be an independent country. Economic circumstances can change and be improved through different economic initiatives; this simply isn’t a good enough reason to not secede from Canada. Furthermore, there is significant economic evidence that suggests that smaller states, such as that of Quebec, have a higher chance of thriving economically than larger states such as Canada.[1] Therefore, this argument not only does not justify the opposition case, but also is entirely speculative and likely incorrect. Quebec’s economy could very well benefit significantly from detaching its economy from Canada.

[1] Price, Adam, „Small Is Cute, Sexy, and Successful: Why Independence for Wales and Other Countries Makes Economic Sense“, Harvard Kennedy School Review, 2011, <http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k74756&pageid=icb.page414660>

POINT

Secession from Canada would not be a fair or adequate representation of the will of the people of Quebec.

The most recent referendum and all current polling data suggest that an overwhelming majority of Quebecers are opposed to Quebec seeking independence from Canada[1]. The government of Quebec pursuing such a policy is only representative of a very small minority of people in Quebec, and therefore is undemocratic in nature. Moreover, this policy explicitly denies consideration or enfranchisement for the very large populations of Anglophone Quebecers who also deserve representation, and whose interests are being wholly discounted to pursue this one policy on behalf of the Francophones in their province.

Therefore, pursuing secession is both wholly undemocratic, but also specifically disenfranchises a very large portion of the population entirely in a trade-off for one specific policy that doesn’t appeal strongly to anyone beyond a very small minority of citizens.

[1] Chung, Andrew. "Sovereignty "outmoded," Quebec poll indicates." Star 19 May 2010, n. pag. Web. 1 Dec. 2011. <http://www.thestar.com/news/quebec/article/811132--sovereignty-outmoded-quebec-poll-indicates>.

COUNTERPOINT

Quebec is in a unique position as the homeland for French-speaking Canadians and therefore has a very different mandate than a normal state or province. Quebec has an obligation to the rights of French Canadians as a group due to its unique position, and just because Anglo-Canadians have migrated to Quebec does not mean that the primacy of this special obligation has disappeared because the mandate’s representation within its territory has been diluted.

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